During India Today Conclave 2023 session of External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar, China expert Michael Pillsbury mentioned ‘Panda Huggers’ who thought harmony with China is possible and said that there were such people in America who thought the way Rahul Gandhi does; but now they have changed.

Michael Paul Pillsbury is an author, and former public official in the United States. He has been the Director of the Center on Chinese Strategy at the Hudson Institute in Washington, D.C. since 2014. Watch exclusive interview of External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar at India Today Conclave 2023. Union Minister of External Affairs delves into the nuances of diplomacy with war, markets and mega power shifts in focus. India Today hosts what can be termed as India’s new voice in the world.